{"id":28219,"date":"2023-09-18T15:11:12","date_gmt":"2023-09-18T12:11:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/?p=28219"},"modified":"2023-09-18T15:11:12","modified_gmt":"2023-09-18T12:11:12","slug":"eski-buyukelci-namik-tan-aksenerin-masadan-kalkmasi-huda-par-ve-sinan-ogan-organizasyonlari-derin-devletin-isi-olabilir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/eski-buyukelci-namik-tan-aksenerin-masadan-kalkmasi-huda-par-ve-sinan-ogan-organizasyonlari-derin-devletin-isi-olabilir\/","title":{"rendered":"Eski B\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7i Nam\u0131k Tan: Ak\u015fener\u2019in masadan kalkmas\u0131, H\u00dcDA PAR ve Sinan O\u011fan organizasyonlar\u0131 derin devletin i\u015fi olabilir"},"content":{"rendered":"

(The Turkish Post) \u2013 <\/strong>Emekli b\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7i ve CHP \u0130stanbul Milletvekili, Kemal K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7daro\u011flu\u2019nun d\u0131\u015f ili\u015fkiler konusunda ba\u015fdan\u0131\u015fman\u0131 olan Nam\u0131k Tan, verdi\u011fi r\u00f6portajda dikkat \u00e7ekici ifadeler kulland\u0131.<\/p>\n

\u201c40 seneden fazla hizmet etti\u011fim devletin nelere kadir oldu\u011funu biliyorum\u201d diyen Nam\u0131k Tan, Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 ve AKP Genel Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n AB T\u00fcrkiye raporu sonras\u0131 \u201cAvrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019yle gerekirse yollar\u0131 ay\u0131rabiliriz\u201d s\u00f6zleri i\u00e7in de \u201cBu ifadeleri ciddiye alm\u0131yorum\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n

Nam\u0131k Tan\u2019\u0131n T24\u2019ten Cansu \u00c7aml\u0131bel\u2019in sorular\u0131na verdi\u011fi yan\u0131tlar \u015f\u00f6yle:<\/p>\n

2- 4 Mart krizinden sonra \u2013 yani Meral Ak\u015fener\u2019in masadan kalk\u0131p sonra geri d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc o kritik parantezden sonra YetkinReport\u2019ta kaleme ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z yaz\u0131 dikkatimi \u00e7ekmi\u015fti. Bug\u00fcn d\u00f6n\u00fcp tekrar okudum yaz\u0131y\u0131, ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n kendisi bile \u00e7ok \u015fey s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor; \u201cDerin devlet, derin siyaset ve bozulan oyunlar\u201d. O yaz\u0131da asl\u0131nda net ifadelerle b\u00f6yle s\u00f6ylemeseniz de se\u00e7im s\u00fcrecinin kontrol\u00fc ya da y\u00f6nlendirilmesi i\u00e7in derin devletin devreye girmi\u015f olabilece\u011fini ima etmi\u015ftiniz. M\u00fcesses nizam\u0131n \u0130Y\u0130 Parti\u2019ye kanca atm\u0131\u015f olma olas\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131na de\u011finmi\u015ftiniz. O zaman siz T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u015fekil de\u011fi\u015ftirmi\u015f olsa da hala bir derin devlet oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz. Do\u011fru mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Bunu, \u00e7ok \u00f6nceden de d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyordum zaten. Se\u00e7im s\u00fcrecinin bunu teyit etti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. \u015eimdi buna daha da \u00e7ok inan\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

Neden se\u00e7imlerden sonra derin devletin varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir \u015fekilde s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc kanaatiniz kuvvetlendi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc se\u00e7im s\u00fcrecini bilfiil ya\u015fad\u0131k, her a\u015famas\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Kimse beni bunun adil ve a\u00e7\u0131k bir se\u00e7im oldu\u011funa inand\u0131ramaz. \u201cSomut kan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131?\u201d diye sorarsan\u0131z, cevab\u0131m \u201chay\u0131r\u201d olur. Ancak, ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015fl\u0131k \u00fczerinden hissiyat\u0131m\u0131n bu y\u00f6nde oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebilirim.<\/p>\n

Sizin \u0130stanbul 3. B\u00f6lgedeki rakibiniz eski \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 S\u00fcleyman Soylu\u2019ydu. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla da tahminim kampanya s\u00fcrecinde devletin b\u00fct\u00fcn imkanlar\u0131n\u0131n h\u00fck\u00fcmetin bir milletvekili aday\u0131 i\u00e7in ne \u015fekilde kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131na yak\u0131ndan tan\u0131k oldunuz. Bunun adil bir yar\u0131\u015f olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc g\u00f6zle g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcr bir \u015fey. Ancak \u201ca\u00e7\u0131k bir se\u00e7im\u201d olmad\u0131 demek ba\u015fka bir imay\u0131 i\u00e7eriyor. Dahas\u0131, derin devlet g\u00f6ndermesi yap\u0131nca konunun boyutu daha da de\u011fi\u015fiyor. \u015eu anda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin klasik bir parti devlete fevkalade yak\u0131n bir yerde oldu\u011funa ku\u015fku yok. Ancak bizim sahnede g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz akt\u00f6rler d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda birileri 70\u2019lerde 80\u2019lerde 90\u2019lardaki gibi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin i\u00e7 ve d\u0131\u015f siyaseti \u00fczerinde etkili olabiliyorlar m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

S\u00f6yledi\u011fim gibi, somut kan\u0131tlar yok elimde. Ama ben devletin i\u00e7inden g\u00f6rece yak\u0131n zamanda ayr\u0131lm\u0131\u015f birisi olarak izlenimlerime ve tecr\u00fcbelerime istinaden bu de\u011ferlendirmeyi yap\u0131yorum. Devlete 40 seneye yak\u0131n hizmet ettim. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, devletin nelere kadir oldu\u011funu biliyorum. Buna dayanarak hissiyat\u0131m\u0131n bu y\u00f6nde oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum. Bir ba\u015fka konu daha var, tabii. Hangi devlet? Bir benim biraz \u00f6nce art\u0131k kalmad\u0131 dedi\u011fim devlet var, bir de \u015fimdiki iktidar\u0131n yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 kural tan\u0131maz devlet var.<\/p>\n

Asl\u0131nda, derin devlet her \u00fclkede var, Amerika Birle\u015fik Devletleri\u2019nde de var, \u0130ngiltere\u2019de de var, Fransa\u2019da da var\u2026 Ancak, derin devletin de kendi i\u00e7inde baz\u0131 kurallar\u0131 oldu\u011fu biliniyor. Somut bir \u00f6rnek verecek olursak, ABD\u2019deki federal devletin savunma harcamalar\u0131na bak\u0131n. Normalde, Amerikan y\u00f6netiminin Kongre\u2019den onay almadan tek bir kuru\u015f harcamas\u0131 m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildir. Bunun y\u00f6neticiler \u00fczerinde \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck vebali vard\u0131r. Bizim \u00fclkedeki gibi b\u00fct\u00e7e disiplinine uymadan, keyfi harcama ve \u00f6deme yap\u0131lamaz. Ama i\u015f ulusal g\u00fcvenli\u011fe geldi mi, Amerika\u2019da akan sular durur; gereken harcama her hal\u00fck\u00e2rda yap\u0131l\u0131r. Bunu herkes bilir. Bizim i\u00e7in de ayn\u0131 \u015fey ge\u00e7erliydi.<\/p>\n

Ama bug\u00fcn art\u0131k T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de milli iradeye keyfi gerek\u00e7elerle hesap vermekten ka\u00e7an, milli iradenin onay\u0131 ile konulmu\u015f kurallar\u0131 alenen hi\u00e7e sayan, keyfi davranmaktan ka\u00e7\u0131nmayan iktidar\u0131n yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir devlet var. Bizatihi devleti elinde tutan insanlar yaz\u0131l\u0131 kurallar\u0131 dinlemediklerini s\u00f6yleyebiliyor. \u00dclkenin kay\u0131ts\u0131z \u015farts\u0131z uyulmas\u0131 ve sayg\u0131 duyulmas\u0131 gereken yaz\u0131l\u0131 kural\u0131 olan anayasay\u0131 \u201ctan\u0131m\u0131yorum\u201d denebiliyor. Tek adam; \u201cBen anayasaya sayg\u0131 duymuyorum\u201d diyebiliyor, bu \u00fclkede\u2026<\/p>\n

H\u00dcDA- PAR, Sinan O\u011fan\u2026onlardan bahsediyorsunuz.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tabii, mesela H\u00dcDA- PAR\u2026 Devletle sorunu var, ge\u00e7mi\u015fi ortada, su\u00e7a bula\u015fm\u0131\u015f\u2026 Sinan O\u011fan\u2019\u0131n belki devletle sorunu yok ama se\u00e7imlerde adayl\u0131k i\u00e7in gerekli olan y\u00fcz bin oyu toplamakta zorlanan bir insan son dakikada nas\u0131l sisteme dahil oldu? Kim yapt\u0131r\u0131yor bunlar\u0131? B\u00fct\u00fcn bu garipliklerin tek bir insan\u0131n, yani tek adam\u0131n ayakta tutulmas\u0131 u\u011fruna yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Baz\u0131 ki\u015fi ve kurumlar\u0131n derin devlet organizasyonuyla ara\u00e7salla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131na inan\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

(The Turkish Post) \u2013 Emekli b\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7i ve CHP \u0130stanbul Milletvekili, Kemal K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7daro\u011flu\u2019nun d\u0131\u015f ili\u015fkiler konusunda ba\u015fdan\u0131\u015fman\u0131 olan Nam\u0131k Tan, verdi\u011fi r\u00f6portajda dikkat \u00e7ekici ifadeler kulland\u0131. \u201c40 seneden fazla hizmet etti\u011fim devletin nelere kadir oldu\u011funu biliyorum\u201d diyen Nam\u0131k Tan, Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 ve AKP Genel Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n AB T\u00fcrkiye raporu sonras\u0131 \u201cAvrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019yle gerekirse yollar\u0131 ay\u0131rabiliriz\u201d […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":28220,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jnews-multi-image_gallery":[],"jnews_single_post":{"source_name":"","source_url":"","via_name":"","via_url":"","override_template":"0","override":[{"template":"1","single_blog_custom":"","parallax":"1","fullscreen":"1","layout":"right-sidebar","sidebar":"default-sidebar","second_sidebar":"default-sidebar","sticky_sidebar":"1","share_position":"topbottom","share_float_style":"share-monocrhome","show_share_counter":"0","show_view_counter":"0","show_featured":"1","show_post_meta":"1","show_post_author":"0","show_post_author_image":"1","show_post_date":"1","post_date_format":"default","post_date_format_custom":"Y\/m\/d","show_post_category":"0","show_post_reading_time":"1","post_reading_time_wpm":"300","show_zoom_button":"1","zoom_button_out_step":"4","zoom_button_in_step":"4","show_post_tag":"1","show_prev_next_post":"0","show_popup_post":"1","number_popup_post":"2","show_author_box":"1","show_post_related":"1","show_inline_post_related":"0"}],"override_image_size":"0","image_override":[{"single_post_thumbnail_size":"crop-715","single_post_gallery_size":"crop-500"}],"trending_post":"0","trending_post_position":"meta","trending_post_label":"Trending","sponsored_post":"0","sponsored_post_label":"Sponsored by","sponsored_post_name":"","sponsored_post_url":"","sponsored_post_logo_enable":"0","sponsored_post_logo":"","sponsored_post_desc":"","disable_ad":"0"},"jnews_primary_category":{"id":"4","hide":""},"jnews_override_bookmark_settings":{"override_bookmark_button":"0","override_show_bookmark_button":"0"},"jnews_social_meta":{"fb_title":"","fb_description":"","fb_image":"","twitter_title":"","twitter_description":"","twitter_image":""},"jnews_override_counter":{"override_view_counter":"0","view_counter_number":"0","override_share_counter":"0","share_counter_number":"0","override_like_counter":"0","like_counter_number":"0","override_dislike_counter":"0","dislike_counter_number":"0"},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[7452,5023,1422],"class_list":["post-28219","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-gundem","category-son-haberler","tag-derin-devlet","tag-namik-tan","tag-slider-manset"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28219","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28219"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28219\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/28220"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28219"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28219"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.turkishpost.net\/ar\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28219"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}